Showing posts with label moral ontology. Show all posts
Showing posts with label moral ontology. Show all posts

Friday, September 05, 2025

Beyond Euthyphro: The Quadrilemma Against Theistic Grounding of Moral Values

Here's a sketch of an argument against the necessity of God for (objective) moral values.

Consider the following position:

DNT-A: Moral values are grounded in God's nature.

The motivation for this position collapses once we map the logical space of possible grounding relations. Once the options are laid out, it becomes clear: God or God's nature is not required to ground moral values.

The Quadrilemma

If objective moral values exist, their ultimate foundation must be either ungrounded, abstractly grounded, mentally grounded, or physically grounded. 

  • Ungrounded. Some moral values are fundamental. For example, "kindness is good" is simply a brute, foundational truth.
  • Abstract grounding. Some moral values are grounded in other abstract properties or value-relations. For example, the badness of cruelty may be grounded in the disvalue of causing suffering.
  • Mental grounding. Some moral values are grounded in a mind or intellect, such as a divine being's valuing activity.
  • Physical grounding. Some moral values are grounded in facts about the natural world, such as human flourishing, evolutionary facts about cooperation, or the requirements of well-being.

These four horns are mutually exclusive and jointly exhaustive. There are no further intelligible options for grounding moral values.

Objection: God's Nature is Sui Generis

One might object that the grounding of morality in God is sui generis—a unique, fifth kind of relation not captured by these categories. But is it? To count as a legitimate fifth option, it is not enough simply to assert that it is sui generis. The proponent must explain what this fifth option is and how it differs from physical, mental, and abstract grounding. Unless and until such an account is provided, there is no reason to accept it as a genuine alternative. Therefore, the quadrilemma covers all the intelligible philosophical options.

Why God's Nature Is Not Necessary

Now consider the implications of each horn.

  • Ungrounded: If some values are (ontologically) fundamental, then they do not depend on God by definition. While a theist might respond by proposing God (or His nature) is the ultimate ground of axiology, this view is counterintuitive, less parsimonious, and possibly incoherent.

  • Abstract grounding: If values are grounded in abstract properties like <kindness> or <justice>, it's far more parsimonious to say that they are grounded in abstract properties, full stop, than it is to say “and they are essential properties of God.”  Why the middleman? There is no compelling reason to require that moral values be instantiated in God rather than being recognized as foundational abstract properties. 

  • Physical grounding: If values are grounded in natural or physical facts, then again God is unnecessary.

  • Mental grounding: If values are grounded in a mind, then God is a candidate. But this option is inconsistent with DNT-A, which says that moral values are grounded in God's nature, not God's mind. Proponents of DNT-A might try to reconcile this with their 'nature' claim by asserting that God's mind and nature are identical. Not only does this move depend on the highly contested and arguably incoherent doctrine of divine simplicity, it still fails to show that God is necessary. The grounding could potentially be in a different sort of mind, making the theistic option one possibility among others, not a requirement.

Beyond Euthyphro

The famous Euthyphro dilemma pressed divine command theory with two horns: are things good because God commands them, or does God command them because they are good? Some thinkers have argued that Modified Divine Command Theory, with its appeal to God’s essentially good nature, shows that the Euthyphro dilemma is a false dilemma.

But the quadrilemma is more difficult to escape. It does not presuppose voluntarism or command theory. It partitions the entire logical space of value grounding. And once the options are on the table, the apologetic claim that (objective) moral values require God can no longer be sustained.

Conclusion

The Quadrilemma Against Theistic Grounding shows that God is never necessary to ground objective moral values. At most, God offers one possible grounding among others. The real question is not whether objective moral values can exist without God. They can. The real question is which grounding theory has the best explanatory virtues, such as parsimony and coherence. On these grounds, non-theistic options appear to have a distinct advantage.

Thursday, May 30, 2024

Finished My Massive Reply to Daniel's Moral Argument for Theism

In order to keep the original URL working, I decided to post updates to the original post rather than make new posts. I am announcing it here for those of you who may not have noticed the updates to the original post.

LINK

In my reply, I cover the following topics: purpose, values, standards, duties, freedom, and human dignity.

Enjoy!


Wednesday, April 03, 2024

Reply to Daniel's Moral Argument for Theism

1. No Good Reason to Think (1) Is True

1.1. The Inessential Objection

1.2. The Underdetermination Objection

1.3. The Prior Obligations Objection

1.4. The Moral Axiology vs. Moral Deontology Objection

1.5. The Moral Ontology vs. Moral Psychology Objection

1.6. The Lack of a Comparative Argument Objection

1.7. The False Evidence Objection

2. There is Good Reason to Think (1) Is False

2.1. Values

2.2.1. Terminology

2.2.2. Arguments for a Theistic Grounding of Moral Values

Theistic Value Grounding Argument

2.2.3. Arguments for a Non-Theistic Grounding of Moral Values

The Non-Necessity of Mental Grounding

The Aseity of Abstract Objects

2.2. Duties

 2.2.1. Exposition

 2.2.2. Arguments for a Theistic Grounding of Moral Obligation

 "Laws Require a Lawgiver"

 "Humans are God's Property"

 2.2.3. Arguments for a Non-Theistic Grounding of Moral Obligation

The Prior Obligations Objection

The Epistemological Objection 

 2.3. Freedom

2.3.1. Terminology

2.3.2. Arguments for the Necessity of Free Will

The No Responsibility Argument 

The No Obligation Argument

2.3.3. Arguments against the Necessity of Free Will 

Moral Value without Free Will

Moral Obligation without Free Will

2.4. Purpose 

2.4.1. Exposition

2.4.2. Arguments for the Necessity of (Agential) Purpose

2.4.3. Arguments against the Necessity of (Agential) Purpose 

Value Simpliciter without Agential Purpose

Prudential Value without Agential Purpose

Subjective Purpose Cannot Ground Objective Value 

2.5. Standards

2.5.1. Exposition

2.5.1.1. General Systems of Ethics

2.5.1.2. "Thin" and "Thick" Moral Standards

2.5.2. Arguments for a Theistic Grounding of Moral Standards

2.5.3. Arguments for a Non-Theistic Grounding of Moral Standards

2.6. Human Dignity

2.6.1. Exposition

2.6.2. Arguments for the Necessity of Human Dignity 

2.6.3. Arguments against the Necessity of Dignified Beings

2.6.4. Arguments against Human Exceptionalism 

 


Wednesday, August 16, 2023

Can We Show There is No Inconsistency between Atheism and Moral Obligation?

In a prior post, I showed that Plantinga has failed to demonstrate a contradiction between atheism and moral obligation in any of this three types of contradiction: explicit, formal, or implicit. I want to continue to my exploration of the alleged contradiction between atheism and moral obligation, this time by asking if we can show that there is no inconsistency between atheism and moral obligation. 

In the spirit of maximal transparency, what follows is mostly plagiarized material from Plantinga's book, God, Freedom, and Evil, Part I, Section a, sub-section 3, with the obvious exception that I have edited the material referring to God and evil with my own material referring to atheism and moral obligation. 

Saturday, August 12, 2023

Divine Nature Theory vs. Abstract Objects

Plato holding his Timaeus, detail from the Vatican fresco The School of Athens
Source: Web Gallery of Art; License: Public Domain


According to what I call the "Divine Nature Theory" of axiology or value (hereafter, DNT-A), value is grounded in God's nature. In contrast, moral anti-reductionism (usually called "ethical non-naturalism") says that moral value is grounded in sui generis, non-natural properties.

What is the advantage of DNT-A over moral anti-reductionism?  According to DNT-A, God’s nature, not God, is the source of moral value.  But what is the distinction between God and His nature?  God’s nature is simply the collection of God’s properties or attributes (e.g., omniscience, omnipotence, etc.).  But if that is the case, then why do we need God in order for moral value to supervene on one or more of such properties?  Or to put the point differently, why must those properties be instantiated in the person of God in order for the supervenience relationship to hold? Why can't they just exist as abstract properties? And if such properties do not need to be instantiated in the person of God, then what is the advantage of the divine nature theory over moral anti-reductionism?

Monday, August 07, 2023

Theistic vs. Naturalistic Grounding of Moral Value




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Sunday, January 01, 2023

By What Standard?



 

Sometimes theists will ask atheists the following question.

(1) If you don't believe in God, then by what standard can you label actions (morally) right, wrong, or indifferent / neutral / permitted?

Monday, December 12, 2022

A Modest Proposal for Religion and Morality Terminology: Part 4 (Discovered vs Invented)

Photo of a dictionary page showing the definition of "language"
Source: PXFuel; License: Public Domain 

4. Discovered vs Invented

Having reviewed the terminology to describe the positions that moral sentences are either are (or are not) capable of being true or false, I am now going to explore the philosophical territory under cognitivism. When cognitivists talk about the truth value of moral sentences, it is useful to distinguish between the source and nature of these sentences. Allow me to explain. 

Again, consider the following moral sentences.
  • Do unto others what you would have them do to you.
  • Plural marriage, involving one husband and multiple wives, is acceptable.
  • It is the duty of parents to ensure that their daughters are 'circumcised,' i.e., have their clitoris removed.

By definition, if cognitivism is true, each of those sentences is either true or false. But what makes each of them true or false? Here are two indirect answers to that question.

  • discovered: whatever it is that makes moral sentences true or false, it is something that "we" recognize and which is beyond "our" control.
  • invented: a mind (or something like a mind) decides which moral sentences are true or false.
Each of these two options has two sub-options: one limited to humans and one which includes humans and any supernatural beings which might exist, such as gods and God.
  • discovered by humans: whatever it is that makes moral sentences true or false, it is something that humans recognize and which is beyond humans' control.
  • discovered by minds: whatever it is that makes moral sentences true or false, it is something that minds (or something like minds) recognize and which is beyond their control.
  • invented by humans: humans decide which moral sentences true or false
  • invented by minds: a mind (or something like a mind) decides which moral sentences are true or false.
The distinction between "discovered" and "invented" captures most, if not all, of what philosophers mean when they talk about the "objectivity" or "subjectivity" of "morality" in a purely ontological sense, i.e., what "exists" in reality.[1] But the discovered-vs.-invented distinction has a major advantage over the ontological objectivity-vs.-subjectivity distinction. Even among philosophers who define the terms "objective" and "subjective" in an ontological sense, there is disagreement about how to apply that distinction to God (and ethical theories in which God plays a major role). Some philosophers maintain that "discovered by humans" is a sufficient condition for ontological objectivity, while others insist that ontological objectivity means mind-independent and so "discovered by minds" (including God) is a necessary and sufficient condition for ontological objectivity. In contrast, the two distinctions -- discovered-vs.-invented by humans-vs.-minds -- bypasses that semantic swamp entirely and does so in a way easily understandable by everyone.


Notes

[1] In this sentence, replace "morality" with "social moral system or Socratic moral system."

Friday, November 12, 2021

Moral Anti-Reductionism, Objective Moral Values, and Abstract Objects: Some Very Preliminary Thoughts

(Note: I am clearing out my backlog of draft blog posts but I am officially on a hiatus from blogging. What this means is that while you are free to comment on this post, readers should not expect engagement from me anytime soon.)


(Updated 7 January 2022)

VERY ROUGH DRAFT

Let's begin with some definitions:

moral ontology: The study of whether any moral properties and facts exist and, if so, what metaphysical status they have.

By "metaphysical status," I mean whether moral properties and facts are ontologically reducible to non-moral facts and properties. In this sense, then, there are two main theories about the metaphysical status of moral properties and facts: anti-reductionism and reductionism. Let's define those next:


moral anti-reductionism (a/k/a ‘non-naturalism’): The position that moral facts and properties are not reducible to non-moral facts and properties. The standard label for this position is the rather unfortunate and undescriptive term ‘non-naturalism.’ I have coined the new term, “moral anti-reductionism,” to be more clear. (Cf. Moore, Fales, Wielenberg)

moral reductionism: the position that moral facts and properties are reducible to non-moral facts and properties. There are two types of moral reductionism:
    • reductive moral naturalism: Moral facts and properties are reducible to natural, non-moral facts and properties. (Cf. Brink, Swinburne)
    • reductive moral supernaturalism: Moral facts and properties are reducible to supernatural, non-moral facts and properties. (Cf. Adams)
Here I want to explore the metaphysical status of moral facts and properties, from the perspective of moral anti-reductionism. It seems to me that if moral facts and properties exist and if moral anti-reductionism is true, then moral facts and properties plausibly exist as abstract objects. But what does that mean?

Let's start with moral facts and properties. Assuming they exist, let's plausibly stipulate that they include moral values. Turning to moral values, it's useful to start with a definition of "values" and then contrast that with "moral values." In the broad sense, "values" are the things that people care about. As Rescher pointed out in his study of value theory, there are many types of values: moral (such as honesty and fairness), economic (such as economic security and productiveness), social (such as charitableness and courtesy), political (such as freedom and justice), aesthetic (such as beauty and symmetry), and so forth. Rescher doesn't explicitly define what differentiates moral value from other kinds of value; furthermore, it's not obvious that these types of value are mutually exclusive. (For example, perhaps with certain caveats, justice is both a political and a moral value.) As a very rough first step, I suggest the following definition:

moral values: properties, character traits, or states of affairs which, by default, are worthy of praise, something we expect of others, or both. The "by default" expression is included to allow for exceptions. For example, we might say that honesty is morally valuable, but there are cases in which the moral value of honesty is outweighed by the moral value of something else, such as flourishing. Think of people in Nazi Europe who sheltered Jews and then lied to the Nazis when interrogated about whether they sheltered any Jews. The "by default" expression is designed to render such counter-examples irrelevant.

Some philosophers contrast moral values with moral disvalues. Let's define "moral disvalues" in parallel:

moral disvalues: properties, character traits, or states of affairs which, by default, are worthy of condemnation, are prohibited, or both. Again, the "by default" expression is included to address obvious counter-examples. For example, we might say that dishonesty is usually morally disvaluable, but in the case of people who sheltered Jews from Nazi persecution, such dishonesty was morally valuable.  

With "moral values" defined, let's now introduce the notion of an "objective moral value." (N.B. Depending on the day of the week, I am doubtful about whether the concept of "objective moral value" is coherent, but for this post I am going to assume that it is.) Even within the context of axiology, there is no universally agreed upon definition of "objectivity." Because this post is about moral ontology, I'm going to define objectivity in an ontological sense. Okay, but what does that mean? Well, negatively, we might say that the truth of X is ontologically objective if and only if the truth of X is mind-independent. That definition is fine as far as it goes, but it doesn't go far enough. It tells us what ontological objectivity is not, but it doesn't tell us what ontological objectivity is. So, positively, we might say that the truth of X is ontologically objective if and only if: (1) X is true in virtue of corresponding to actually existing objects or properties which function as truthmakers for the propositions in question; and (2) the truthmakers make no reference to anyone's subjective states, capacities, conventions, beliefs, attitudes, or desires.

ontologically objective moral values: propositions about moral values which (1) are true in virtue of corresponding to actually existing objects or properties which function as truthmakers for the propositions in question; and (2) the truthmakers make no reference to anyone's subjective states, capacities, conventions, beliefs, attitudes, or desires.

As an abstract definition, that definition seems okay to me, but how would this work in practice? For example, consider the following proposition:

H: Honesty is morally valuable.

If we say that a proposition like H is ontologically objective (as defined above), what functions as H's truthmaker? In other words, what makes H true?

Before I explore how a moral anti-reductionist might answer, I want to quickly summarize where we are. To sum up: we're making the following assumptions:

(1) moral facts and properties exist;
(2) moral facts and properties include moral values;
(3) the concept of "objective moral value" is coherent; and
(4) objective moral values exist, viz., moral values are ontologically objective. 

The next step is to divide ontologically objective moral values into two types: derivative and non-derivative. Non-derivative values, also known as "intrinsic values" or "ends values," are values which are not derived from anything else. In contrast, derivative values, also known as "extrinsic values" or "means values," are things whose value is derived from something else, something which might be derivatively or non-derivatively valuable. Imagine a chain of value where A is derivatively valuable because of B which is derivatively valuable because of C ... which is derivatively valuable because of X, which is non-derivatively valuable. In that example, X is a "stopping point" in the chain of value. The point I want to make here is that IF there are ontologically objective extrinsic moral values, other things serve as their truthmakers. N.B. I don't know if there are ontologically objective extrinsic moral values or even if the concept of an ontologically objective extrinsic moral value is coherent, but it doesn't matter to my point, which is simply that IF such things exist, then their value ultimately derives from other things, things which are non-derivatively valuable. So let's make an additional assumption:

(5) Ontologically objective moral values exist, and include non-derivative ontologically objective moral values.

This can be simplified to:

(5')  Non-derivative ontologically objective moral values exist.

In case this is too abstract, here's a potential example (which, again, assumes the concept of an ontologically objective derivative moral value is coherent). By definition, utilitarianism seems to entail that utility is non-derivatively morally valuable. While act utilitarians might believe that, say, honesty is morally valuable, logically consistent act utilitarians must regard honesty as derivatively morally valuable: on their view, honesty is morally valuable if and only if it maximizes utility. In other words, for them, maximizing utility is what 'makes' honesty morally valuable. But what about utility itself? On act utilitarianism, nothing else makes it morally valuable to maximize utility; maximizing utility just is valuable. 

So let's add the following to our list of assumptions:

(6) Non-derivative ontologically objective moral values exist, and include X.

X could be any candidate for non-derivative value: the utilitarian's utility; the Aristotelian's contributing to human flourishing; the normative divine command theorist's obedience to God's commands; and so forth.

It seems to me that if some instance of (6) is true, it is necessarily true, but if some instance of (6) is false, it is necessarily false. For example, if utility is non-derivatively and objectively valuable, then it is necessarily true that utility is non-derivatively and objectively valuable. Likewise, if contributing to human flourishing is non-derivatively and objectively valuable, it is necessarily true that contributing to human flourishing is non-derivatively and objectively valuable. 

This leads to:

(7) Necessarily, if non-derivative ontologically objective moral values exist, they exist necessarily.

The implication here is that, contrary to myth, if moral anti-reductionism is true, it doesn't necessarily follow that moral facts and properties are sui generis. They might be a wholly unique type of entity, but they might also simply be propositions, albeit propositions about moral facts and properties. In other words, the Platonist qua moral anti-reductionist need not view moral facts and properties as a unique type of entity over and above other kinds of entities which they recognize in their ontology; rather, the Platonist qua moral anti-reductionist might believe that propositions exist as abstract objects, and non-derivative and objective moral values "exist" as a type of proposition.

The idea of linking moral anti-reductionism and abstract objects seems plausible because of the many parallels between nonreductive moral values and abstract objects. If a non-reductive moral value or abstract object exists, it exists necessarily. If a non-reductive moral value or abstract object exists, it is causally inert (i.e., the number 2 or the moral value utility cannot cause anything).  If a non-reductive moral value or abstract object exist, it is not spatiotemporal, viz., it does not exist in space and time.

This leads to one final thesis:

(8) If non-derivative ontologically objective moral values exist, they plausibly exist as a type of abstract object, namely, propositions about non-derivative ontologically objective moral value.